Shock absorbers - recommendations

Alister McBride
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10 Nov 2012 13:41 #2 by Alister McBride

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Hi all,
I'm after a few shock bushes, the Monroe part# is LS54 but tried the local Repco and Autobarn and they rang Monroe and Monroe said it's an American part number and they can't help... What part# have others used?
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Alister

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10 Nov 2012 14:02 - 10 Nov 2012 14:03 #3 by dandjcr

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Alister, there's a couple of references to LS54 on this US website . Seems the LS54 number is the shocker end style, not the actual bush number.

Suggest you ask them (or TruckSpring , where I got my airbags from), I've found US companies quick to respond and have huge inventories of parts.

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10 Nov 2012 15:04 - 10 Nov 2012 15:11 #4 by dandjcr

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Alister, you should find a suitable size bush from here . Then check their website for availability and pricing. I tried EB219 (may not be the size you need) and it was $7.

I found the bushes difficult to remove and replace since the shockers have an internal tapered shape.

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13 Nov 2012 07:41 #5 by Alister McBride

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Hi David,
Thanks again for the info! I found the flogged out bush quite easy to remove as it had worn through on one side but the other more complete but perished bush looks like it'll be a bugger. I think a press may be the way to go... I've gotten onto a place in the states who may be able to send shocks and extra bushes so i'll post if they're able to help.
Cheers,
Alister

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13 Nov 2012 08:39 - 13 Nov 2012 08:45 #6 by Outback Jack

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David,

Do you have pictures of your front dual shocks?? The LT`s have a different shock tower for dual shocks. Mine being an XT doesnt have the correct shock towers, so I am going to need to make something up to fit the dual shocks.

I have already fitted dual shocks to the rear.

The shocks I am using are here.

Power Down

Part number is RT41010, I have two on the rear and will have two on the front.

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13 Nov 2012 11:09 #7 by dandjcr

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OBJ, I don't have dual shockers on the front right now but I am also keen to fit them to spread the load. I believe David Hallandal has fitted duals to his XT by replacing the whole tower.

I was going to investigate the possibility of just welding a new mounting bolt to the existing tower, but the slope on the leading edge may make this impractical without a large wedge to line things up.

I also have front airbags and their lower mounting plates will get in the way.

Anyone got any other thoughts?

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13 Nov 2012 11:26 #8 by Outback Jack

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I think it has been done before with out replacing the shock tower.

My idea is to use some box tubing with a bottom gusset. I will post pictures up when I have done it.

I will use the old shockie post from the rear. They was cut off when I installed dual shocks for the rear.

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13 Nov 2012 15:16 - 13 Nov 2012 15:21 #9 by dandjcr

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The mounting will have to be pretty solid as it needs to withstand some very severe shock loads. The mount which broke on ours was on a piece of 5mm plate which fatigued.

I'll be interested in your solution. Welding up the inside of the tower will be tricky with the floor pan in place.

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13 Nov 2012 16:25 #10 by Outback Jack

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I am going to tackle it tommorrow, so should have some picture then.

I am hoping having two shocks actually reduces the load on each shock, therefore reducing the damage you experienced. Time will tell I guess.

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14 Nov 2012 15:42 - 14 Nov 2012 15:45 #11 by Outback Jack

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OK Front Dual Shocks fitted.

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14 Nov 2012 16:00 - 16 Nov 2012 09:35 #12 by dandjcr

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OBJ, it's a similar plan to what I was going to do but I would extend the lower edge further down so there's less stress on the circled joint.

You'll need to do the Gibb River Road to test it.

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14 Nov 2012 16:43 #13 by Outback Jack

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Well a trip to the Kimberly is on the cards mid next year, however there are a lot of roads around here that will give it a work out.

The guys in the workshop couldnt work out why I even bothered with dual shocks.

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Alister McBride
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26 Nov 2012 06:14 #14 by Alister McBride

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Hi all,

I finally got onto ordering the Powerdown EB219 bushes and the best supplier i found was Truckline, i think they have distributors all over the country but my closest was:
2-10 Decor Drive,
Hallam VIC 3803
(03) 9702 3344

Cheers,
Alister

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26 Nov 2012 13:06 #15 by Tony Lee

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You'll need to do the Gibb River Road to test it.

Another road that needs renaming to reflect the current status.

Gibb River Highway, Birdsville Highway, Strzelecki Highway

Tony

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26 Nov 2012 17:30 #16 by Peter334

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Ive taken a few rubbers out of shocks, some times can be easy sometimes not but fitting is easy , all you need a vice some crc spray or grease and press it in , apply the spray or grease to one side only of rubber not great heaps alighn them in the vice so the rubber is in the right position and so it dosnt pop out the shock should be facing sky wards, then close the vice once past the no return it will slip in, allways remember to wear glasses and take your time. cheers peter

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Alister McBride
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19 Jan 2013 19:03 - 19 Jan 2013 19:05 #17 by Alister McBride

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Thanks Peter, that worked well!

OBJ and LT owners, just wondering what you've used as the dimension in the pic below? Wondering if the shocks are perfectly parallel or can rely on bushes taking up the slack a bit during full suspension travel?

Also, OBJ your new mount is slightly lower than the other, what's the reason for this (was it just so you could fit the mig gun in above the bracket?)?

Cheers,
Alister

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19 Jan 2013 19:09 #18 by Outback Jack

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Height was determined by shockie length and how they line up.

I am hoping that in the future Al from OKA will have the LT shock towers, I would then replace what I have done. They are parallel and will be neater.

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22 Jan 2013 04:24 #19 by Alister McBride

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Just remembered yesterday while looking at it, the XT springs are on either 4 or 6 degrees (cant exactly remember) more angle than the LT so it probably makes sense to have them at different heights horizontally... But yes, looking at the pic above of Hal's setup it looks like the LT's shocks are exactly parallel vertically which spaces them out a fair bit!

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22 Jan 2013 05:41 - 22 Jan 2013 05:46 #20 by Outback Jack

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Also my spring hanger bolts to the chassis. Bit hard to explain, but I think late XT`s and LT`s front spring hangers bolt under the chassis, early XT`s bolt through the chassis.

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23 Jan 2013 06:34 - 23 Jan 2013 06:35 #21 by Alister McBride

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Sorry, that's what i mean OBJ, it's a difference of 4 or 6 degrees.

They look like new shackles with different shackle bolt's to standard OBJ, explain???

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